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I have read and reread your beliefs.....while I agree with your belief
in Jesus Christ as Savior....I don't believe that Mormons really understand
the word
"salvation." I have had many conversations with Mormons and they
don't quite take it all the way with salvation, their definition is so
different
from what the Bible states (not the Book of Mormon, written not by
the disciples but by modern man).
The TRUE Bible states that "I, AM WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT, NO MAN
COMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BY ME," those were Jesus's own words. Okay,
so you may
believe that scripture, but isn't salvation when you accept Jesus Christ
as your personal Savior, invite him into your heart? I have never heard
one Mormon
admit this is the way to eternal life, they skip and skirt the issue
and give me mumbo jumbo about what salvation really is, per the Book of
Mormon. Like I
said, I have talked with many Mormons, I find them to be wonderful,
loving people....I think that all the good charity, etc., is more for "good
works"
which they think will get them to eternal life with the Lord in heaven,
but in "levels" (3, I think).
For one, good works is not the answer to entrance to Heaven. That is
only "part" of it. This whole business about all these "levels" of heaven
are the most
confusing thing of all. NO WHERE in the Bible does it state that we
will be at different levels according to our good works, behavior, sin,
blah blah blah.
God the Father himself has said that those that enter the Kingdom will
sit WITH the Father....not 3 levels down, etc. That is absurd. Someone
explain this
to me, please!
This is not to insult anyone....I am just speaking the truth from my
heart. Although it is admirable with the missionary work with boys going
all around
the work on their bikes, it should be a CHOICE, not a requirement,
that is something I never have understood either. God gives us CHOICE,
not the Mormon
Church to recommend these missions. So I guess I really have 3 questions....Why
the levels in Heaven? What REALLY is salvation to you? What about
sin,
good works, personal relationship with Jesus Christ?
Anyway, I respect and admire you so much for even including your beliefs
on your web site, that is so courageous and speaks volumes about your lack
of
shame. Good for you. May God continue to bless you Donny.
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Thank you for your interest, for your questions and for your kind remarks.
Contrary to what you might think, we believe in most of what you have
written. Although, I must explain to you that we do not believe that the
Book of Mormon was written by modern man, but by prophets of God that lived
between the years 600 B.C. to about 400 A.D.
I'm very sorry that the members of our church fell short in explaining
our absolute dependence on Christ for any hope of salvation. We believe
in the first and great commandment, "Thou shalt
love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with
all thy mind. (Matthew 22:37).We
also believe in the second, "Thou shalt
love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew
22:39).
He is the creator of the worlds (Hebrews 1:1-3,
John 1:1-3 and Colossians 1:16). He suffered in the Garden
of Gethsemane and on the Cross of Calvary where he paid for our sins that
those who have faith in him, repent, are baptized and receive the Holy
Ghost can be forgiven of sin and inherit Eternal Life in the Kingdom of
our Father in Heaven (John 3:5, Acts 2:38).
And we also believe that "... now is Christ risen
from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For
since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive"
(Corinthians 15:20-22).
I have known many devout Christians who emphasize: "
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it
is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast"(Ephesians
2:8-9). We then explain
"For
as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead
also" (James 2:26)
I know that both of these passages are true, that Paul is emphasizing
the importance of faith and grace in one and the importance of following
Christ and serving him in another. Obviously, both are important.
It really seems clear to me (and everyone I have discussed this with) that
the first step is that we have faith in Christ and accept him as our personal
Savior, but the scriptures make it clear that we must then repent, be baptized,
receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost by the laying on of hands and then "...he
that endureth to the end shall be saved" (Matthew
10:22) "Because strait is the
gate, and narrow
is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few
there be that find it" (Matthew 7:14).
For: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord,
Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will
of my Father which is in heaven. (Matthew
7:21)
Now concerning the three heavens, most Christians that I've observed,
believe in Heaven and Hell as do we. The difference is that we believe
that this state refers to the state of the spirits of those who have died
while they await the resurrection. There are a few references in
the New Testament that give us some indication of what we are to expect
beyond this life, but a tremendous amount of clarification on this subject
was part of the "Restoration of the Gospel" to which I have referred so
much in "my beliefs" section. When Christ was on the Cross he said
to the thief dying beside him, "To day shalt
thou be with me in paradise" (Luke
23:43). The morning of the resurrection, as he was approached
by Mary, the risen Savior said, "Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say
unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and
your God" (John 20:17).
We may ask the question, where is paradise, if it is not the presence
of the Father (heaven)? Where was Jesus between the crucifixion and
the resurrection? Peter answers this as he explains,
"For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust,
that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened
by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits
in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering
of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein
few, that is, eight souls were saved by water" (1
Peter 3:18-20).
Even though there is not a great deal of information, we do learn that
the spirits of those who die go to Paradise or Prison to await the resurrection
and then the judgment. As I said, we believe that this world of spirits
is often defined in the scriptures and understood by most as heaven and
hell. Paul's discussion of the resurrection however, gives additional
light as he writes, "There are also celestial
bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one,
and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of
the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the
stars: for one star differeth from another
star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It
is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:" (1
Corinthians 15:40-42) This is the only place that the
"three heavens" are mentioned in the bible, but the Prophet Joseph
Smith and Sidney Rigdon saw in a glorious vision the three degrees of glory
that Paul mentions and we know that the Celestial Glory which is like unto
the sun in glory is the Kingdom of our Heavenly Father and is the reward
of those who truly learn to accept Christ and follow him.
This is a long answer, but I hope it answers your three questions.
Thank you so much for your email.
Sincerely,
Donny Osmond
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